Previous year budget missing

14 postsstarted by rogangriffin 3,659 viewsoriginal topic

New Member
#1
I am trying to set the 2013 budget by copying over numbers from the 2012 budget but when I go to View/Edit Budget and change the year to 2012 or 2011 everything in the "Budget Assigned by Unit" column is empty. I know we had a budget last year. Any idea why these numbers would be cleared?
Thanks!
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#2
I don't know if it's related, but I went to make an adjustment to the budget recently, and found that the current year's budget was missing. The entire budget had been reset to zero.
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#3
I'll add "me to" to this discussion. Our Ward had the budget completed at the beginning of January, in the past week the budget is now zeroed. When reviewing 2012 it is also returned to zero.
#4
My initial send/receive this morning had a financial update that lasted it seems 30 seconds. I was then logged off and had to log on again. When I looked at budget, sure enought the budgeted numbers were gone. Looking at Income and Expense "Other Account" the carryover numbers changed to what we thought they should be all along. Early on it showed a couple hundred dollars in an other accoutn, now that's gone. It matches the CUBS report now. So, seems something was up.
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#5
I also noticed our ward budget had been zeroed some time over the past week. I was going to show the ward clerk some budget allocation figures when I was surprised to see the entire budget figures gone. The only figures that remained were the estimated quarterly allowance figures.
JD Lessley
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#6
Since multiple people are seeing this, I've reported the thread to our MLS contact.
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#7
There was an MLS message today that basically stated as such: that budgets have gone missing and apologizing for the bug.
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#8
Has anyone gone through the process of restoring the missing budget?
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#9
I restored the 2011, 2012, and 2013 budget figures manually recovered from a backup made on 22 January.

I had contacted LUS to see what they could do before I manually restored the budget figures . They attempted to restore the figures from a 15 January backup copy they had. They sent down a file that was supposed to restore the data. It did not restore the data. We tried this twice before I gave up and did the manual recovery.

The manual recovery method I used involved restoring a backup known to have the budget data needed. It first involved moving the ward data folder from the "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\LDS Church\MLS\data\units\" folder in Windows XP or "C:\ProgramData\LDS Church\MLS\data\units" in Windows 7 to another location so that a new setup of the ward in MLS is required and then doing a backup restore. This restored backup was only used so that I could manually copy the data. I then restored the current ward data by deleting the restored data folder and moving the previously moved ward data folder back to "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\LDS Church\MLS\data\units\" folder.

I can post the detailed steps I used if needed.
JD Lessley
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#10
Perfect, that is exactly what I was looking for!

If it's not too much trouble to post the detailed steps for the manual recovery, I would sure appreciate it. Thanks!
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#11
DISCLAIMER: These instructions are provided without warranty or expectation of desired results. Due to configuration or other differences between the computer system these steps were derived and any other computer system, the procedures or steps may need to be modified to achieve expected results. Moving and removal of MLS program files can cause unexpected program behavior or program failure. Proceed at your own risk. Always make a backup before modifying or removing any program files to prevent data loss.

These are the detailed steps I used to manually recover lost budget data. Note the only data that can not be recovered using this manual method is the rollover amount for the years 2010 and 2011. I did not lose the 2012 rollover to 2013 when the other budget data was lost.
  • Make sure an MLS backup known to contain budget data is available. I used our 22 January backup since I had viewed the budget data that evening and knew it existed in that backup.
  • Make sure you have your ward number and your stake number available for entry later on. This information is listed on the Unit tab in Edit > System Options.
  • Exit MLS.
  • Move all ward data folders found in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\LDS Church\MLS\data\units\" to another location.
    • All ward data folders will be named with the ward number.
    • Since it is quicker for me to use the drag-and-drop method I just drug all the ward data folders to the desktop. This included the test ward 108.
    • I moved all ward data folders just to simplify the number of setup steps for the ward to do the restore.
  • Start MLS.
  • With no unit data available MLS will prompt to set up a unit.
    • Complete the setup for your ward.
    • The only data that must be entered is the ward name, ward number, stake name, stake number, and administrator username and password.
    • Don't worry if you are not an administrator. Just enter your username and password you normally use as the setup administrator username and password.
  • Click "Restore from a File"
  • Navigate to and select the backup file.
  • After MLS logs you out, log back in using your normal username and password.
  • Go to Finance > Budget > View/Edit Budget and manually copy the data for each year you need the data.
  • Exit MLS.
  • Delete the ward data folder found in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\LDS Church\MLS\data\units\".
  • Move the ward data folders previously moved to another location back to "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\LDS Church\MLS\data\units\".
  • Start MLS
  • Go to Finance > Budget > View/Edit Budget and enter the missing data.
  • Make a backup.
JD Lessley
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#12
jdlessley wrote:Move all ward data folders found in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\LDS Church\MLS\data\units\" to another location.
That's for WinXP. For Win7, I think it's "C:\ProgramData\LDS Church\MLS\data\units\". Note that ProgramData is a hidden folder, but if you type in the value, you can get to it.
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#13
How important is it to restore previous years' budgets? Although our 2013 budget also disappeared, we had a hard copy that I used to simply re-enter the amounts. Is there any advantage to be gained to restoring the budget numbers for 2012, 2011, or 2010?
New Member
#14
Is this topic still open? I am a Branch Clerk and I noticed that the previous 2 years data is missing. The 2011/2112 years is not even on the drop down menue in the view/edit budget page. 2013's data dissappeared last Sunday and I need to replace it.