W5 audit forms

In the recent MLS 3.5.1, I see that the stake and ward audit forms have been updated to verion "W5" which I think is dated March2012. I just wanted to confirm that is the correct version.

Even if we use LUFAS to record the audits on the web site, I am assuming the "W5" PDF audit forms would be a good thing for us to review with our audit committee at our pre-audit meeting tomorrow night.

We are now on W6 and S6 (dated 2013). I think that's what we have in MLS, and that's definitely what is available on LUFAS. Our Assistant Area Auditor specifically mentioned that we are to use version 6 audit forms for the year-end 2012 audit cycle.

That is what I thought our AAA told us when he addressed our bishopric training meeting last October. However, when I open the audit forms in the stake MLS, I only see the W5 version. I will need to check again.

Thanks much

drepouille wrote:That is what I thought our AAA told us when he addressed our bishopric training meeting last October. However, when I open the audit forms in the stake MLS, I only see the W5 version. I will need to check again.

You can certainly go to LUFAS and choose the "Print an Audit Form" option to access the W6/S6 versions.

drepouille wrote:However, when I open the audit forms in the stake MLS, I only see the W5 version. I will need to check again.

Early in January I downloaded the W6/S6 forms from MLS. They should be there.

The W6 and S6 forms are definitely available for download from LUFAS -- I just got them from there.
I have MLS 3.5.1_21183 on a test system for the training units, and the audit forms it displays are W5 and S5 from December 2008. MLS 3.5.1_21247 appears to have audit forms dated March 2012, but no version is listed.
That's OK, though, because we will use LUFAS anyway. Right?

drepouille wrote:MLS 3.5.1_21247 appears to have audit forms dated March 2012, but no version is listed.

We have MLS version 3.5.1_21247 and the audit forms are the W5 and S5 versions.

drepouille wrote:The W6 and S6 forms are definitely available for download from LUFAS -- I just got them from there.
I have MLS 3.5.1_21183 on a test system for the training units, and the audit forms it displays are W5 and S5 from December 2008. MLS 3.5.1_21247 appears to have audit forms dated March 2012, but no version is listed.
That's OK, though, because we will use LUFAS anyway. Right?

There's no reason to use the older MLS forms. Assuming your stake has been told to use LUFAS (I believe most if not all stakes in the US are now using LUFAS), then your auditors will fill out the forms online using LUFAS, which will use the latest forms. And if for some reason you need a paper form, you can print it from LUFAS, which will also be the latest.

jdlessley wrote:

drepouille wrote:MLS 3.5.1_21247 appears to have audit forms dated March 2012, but no version is listed.

We have MLS version 3.5.1_21247 and the audit forms are the W5 and S5 versions.

Curious. We also have 3.5.1_21247, and I can confirm that we have the W6/S6 versions, dated 9/2012.

allenjpl wrote:Curious. We also have 3.5.1_21247, and I can confirm that we have the W6/S6 versions, dated 9/2012.

Audit forms are not downloaded as part of an MLS upgrade, so that's not that unusual. It raises the question of why drepouille would still have the W5/S5 forms, but it's not because something went wrong while installing MLS 3.5.1_21247, but rather because the download of the W6/S6 forms didn't happen properly (which it's possible should have happened before or after MLS 3.5.1 -- I don't know).

When I do a fresh install of MLS 3.5.1_21247 on a test system, and import test unit 108, I see the old W5 form in MLS. If I remember correctly, even the live stake clerk's computer has the old forms. I will check that again in a couple hours.

drepouille wrote:When I do a fresh install of MLS 3.5.1_21247 on a test system, and import test unit 108, I see the old W5 form in MLS. If I remember correctly, even the live stake clerk's computer has the old forms. I will check that again in a couple hours.

Although it's true that some version of the audit forms will be included with a particular version of MLS, there is a mechanism that can send down updates to the audit forms after MLS is installed (of course that mechanism never is activated with the test units, since the test units can't do a real send/receive).

The question at hand is why that update mechanism didn't seem to work for your stake MLS to update your audit forms to W6/S6. I don't know of any way to trigger that update if it didn't happen when it was supposed to. It would probably require a call to Local Unit Support to trigger that update.

I have verified that the live stake MLS has the W6/S6 forms installed. Thanks for the explanation. It does make sense that these forms would only be updated by a Send/Receive, which we cannot do with the test data.