Leader Resources on LDS Tools for Android

I am not able to access any Leader Resources on my Android Phone. Others in our bishopric are able to access them on their iPhone/iPad. Is this aspect of LDS Tools just not developed for the Android platform as of yet???

That is correct. The most recent build has the framework on place I think we'll see it pretty soon.

I downloaded the snapshot build from today (1.6.0.0), and it includes the Action and Interview List as well as detailed info on each member. It requires setting a PIN to additionally protect the data.

I have version 2.0.5.0 installed on a new Android Phone, and I don't see everything other members of the bishopric see on their iPhones. When will this be updated so they are separate but equal?

KeithWilson wrote:I have version 2.0.5.0 installed on a new Android Phone, and I don't see everything other members of the bishopric see on their iPhones. When will this be updated so they are separate but equal?

You can download the "Latest Build" (2.2.0.0) right now from the Android LDS Mobile Tester page if you want to see those features (I'm not sure that the Android features are exactly the same as on the iPhone, but v2.2.0.0 has many more features than 2.0.5.0).

I don't know why it's taking so long for this development version to become an official release; it's been in the works for a few months. But if you're anxious to get the new features, this will give you a way to have them on your phone before the official release.

Thanks! it works great.

I'm new to LDS Tech, so I apologize if this suggestion should be posted elsewhere.

I think our ward councils meetings could be so much more productive if we had easy access to home and visiting teaching information through Leader Resources on LDS Tools. Then, we could quickly look up who we need to assign to reach out to a member in need, even when their leader may be absent from Ward Council that day.

Ideally, we would also love priesthood office information. We have a lot of new members in our ward (I'd estimate at least a third of our ward joined the church within the last ten years), and it's hard to keep track of who is eligible to bless, prepare, or pass the sacrament.

Thanks!

benfrankyc wrote:I think our ward councils meetings could be so much more productive if we had easy access to home and visiting teaching information through Leader Resources on LDS Tools. Then, we could quickly look up who we need to assign to reach out to a member in need, even when their leader may be absent from Ward Council that day.

This is basically the same as your request in the Directory forum. The answer is the same -- until the Church's online systems support home/visiting teaching, it can't be part of LDS Tools for mobile devices.

benfrankyc wrote:Ideally, we would also love priesthood office information. We have a lot of new members in our ward (I'd estimate at least a third of our ward joined the church within the last ten years), and it's hard to keep track of who is eligible to bless, prepare, or pass the sacrament.

I'm not sure what you mean by "we". Priesthood office information is already available in LDS Tools. But that information is visible only to people with certain callings, such as bishopric, stake presidency, and clerks. If you have one of those callings, then you just need to look in the Ordinances section for an individual's information. If you don't have one of those callings, then you are basically asking that the access permissions be changed for certain callings.

aebrown wrote:... then you are basically asking that the access permissions be changed for certain callings.

And that isn't likely to happen. Access permissions for membership information follow the guidance in the Handbook.

jdlessley wrote:Access permissions for membership information follow the guidance in the Handbook.

Which section? I think the question is that ward councils are all leaders, why is it only the Bishopric that can see everyone? I haven't seen why EQ and RS presidencies are not included.

russellhltn wrote:

jdlessley wrote:Access permissions for membership information follow the guidance in the Handbook.

Which section? I think the question is that ward councils are all leaders, why is it only the Bishopric that can see everyone? I haven't seen why EQ and RS presidencies are not included.

I think jdlessley may be referring to the MLS user rights/access policies, which are defined here:
https://www.lds.org/callings/melchizede ... s?lang=eng

I would like to update home teaching routes through LDS tools. Is this going to be possible in the future or is it possible right now. Will we be able to have a MLS app for the android so that leaders can remotely update ward info from there android devises.

aaronarthurdavis wrote:I would like to update home teaching routes through LDS tools. Is this going to be possible in the future or is it possible right now. Will we be able to have a MLS app for the android so that leaders can remotely update ward info from there android devises.

New features usually come to Leader and Clerk Resources before they come to the LDS Tools app. Therefore, you shouldn't expect major new features in LDS Tools until you see them on Leader and Clerk Resources.

Home teaching functionality for leaders, which will match the current functionality for leaders in MLS, is expected to be on Leader and Clerk Resources sometime in 2015.

Beyond putting existing MLS functionality on the web, we don't know what the future holds - much less when it will happen.

How can I find out what resources are supposed to be available on Lds Tools? Due to my calling in the HP group, I have access to various reports on the Lds.org website, but these are not available on my Lds tools app.

dsesplin wrote:How can I find out what resources are supposed to be available on Lds Tools?

LDS Tools does not have all resources or tools that are available on LDS.org. Each version of LDS Tools for the different operating systems are not on parity with each other either. They are all a work in progress. There are reports on LDS.org that are not yet available in LDS Tools.

What access if any, does the Ward Assistant Clerk - Finance have in LDS Tools?

I can't imagine much, but one never knows until they ask.

jokamura wrote:What access if any, does the Ward Assistant Clerk - Finance have in LDS Tools?

I've not seen an access table (hint, hint). But since LDS Tools has zero finance function, I wouldn't expect much, if any. Perhaps they can see "Leadership Only" listings.

I think we're all getting a bit to crazy on the mobile app thing. I get that the mobile tool is the place where a good number of people want stuff, but it is NOT the MAIN delivery mechanism, that remains MLS and the website. having the data in an app rather than through a responsive-designed website is a Luxury. The church just hasn't invested in mobile development... Teams of people work on the websites, a single individuals manage mobile development.

Until they put these things up for a vote, I'd get used to useing a webbrowser on your phone rather than the app....

I tried to get this statement out of the ICS director after his keynote this last tech conference. He gave a tremendous presentation of why people just don't understand how hard their jobs are across a global marketplace. my response was, just tell us... tell us your priority, tell us how you are going about deliverying solutions, and we'll start evangelizing... Insteand we 'get what we get, and are expected not to throw a fit'

I agree, especially when it comes to features being requested in an app that aren't online yet. Wait for things to be made available online, before you hope for them to be added in an app. There are a few exceptions of things unique to apps – like, in LDS Tools, adding to contacts or caller ID – but new sets of data or new tools will probably not be in an app until they have proven themselves on LDS.org.

With regard leader resources withing the Mobile LDStools app: Having been in other leadership positions with full access to all data , It was so beneficial to my calling. I've now moved to the HP group leader, and the data I can see is so limited. some of my group have requested their data remain private, some have not made any privacy request (and our default is private) so to see the members of my HP group..I can't use the tool. If I logon LDS.ORG under LCR section , and select my calling as the HP group leader then I gain access to all the data to enable me to find and minster.....But when you are out doing random visits, and feel to visit a family....I can't find their address in LDStools....

Is there a "default" calling which LDStools to identify what data you have access to ?

Kerryhaxton wrote:Is there a "default" calling which LDStools to identify what data you have access to ?

I do not think there is a "default" calling, and I have noticed that LDS Tools usually displays the same information that is available to me at LCR. I recently was released from a calling with lots of access, then called to a new calling with some additional access. As I synced regularly, It was interesting to watch how most information on LDS Tools disappeared with my release, and then part of it appeared again as my new calling worked through the system.

I believe you may have a more difficult problem because your default information level is Private. I am not sure how LDS Tools handles that situation. From what you say, it may be that the information you need is available in LCR, but LDS Tools may not have figured out yet how to protect it in LDS Tools, and so it is not yet available there. Because I live in an area where the default is the opposite, I do not notice that problem, if it is indeed the same problem you experience.

russellhltn wrote:

jdlessley wrote:Access permissions for membership information follow the guidance in the Handbook.

Which section? I think the question is that ward councils are all leaders, why is it only the Bishopric that can see everyone? I haven't seen why EQ and RS presidencies are not included.

If you can't get it on the mobile tool, use LCR or MLS, it's quick and simple to get lists of Deacons, Teachers, Priests, Elders, High Priests. If you can't get it yourself ask the Bishop for the lists. Then go about your ministry.