BoM Testing

http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/en/bm/introduction

I1. n English the Title is separated into a class of title and a class of subtitle, whereas in all other languages the Title has only a class of title (it is not separated into two separate classes).

<div class="title">
THE

<span class=large>BOOK OF MORMON</span>
</div>
<div class="subtitle">
AN ACCOUNT WRITTEN BY



<span class=large>THE HAND OF MORMON</span>



UPON PLATES



TAKEN FROM THE PLATES OF NEPHI
</div>


<div class="title">
<span class=large>MORMONS BOG</span>

EN BERETNING SKREVET VED

MORMONS HÅND

PÅ PLADER

TAGET FRA NEFIS PLADER
</div>

2. In English the "Translated by..." section is a class of paragraph, while "First English ed..." is of class contents, however, in all other languages they are both of the same class contents

<div class="paragraph"> </div>
<div class="contents"> </div>



<div class="contents"> </div>


If you would like me to postall of these to one thread, I would be pleased to do so. If you want them as separate threads, I will keep doing so. If you would rather I post in a different format I can do so. If you would prefer I not post this type of bug...I probably will not submit to that because these inconsistencies are bugs and I post bugs, ask the MLS guys.

http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/en/bm/introduction

1. In English, where the Testimonies are referenced in the third to last paragraph, they both link to their respective pages, however in all other languages, they are not linked.

2. In all languages except Hungarian (http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/hu/bm/introduction) there is a link in the second to last paragraph to the reference of Moroni 10:3-5.

http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/en/bm/explanation

In English, German, Spanish, French, Italian and Portuguese the page is formatted in the following manner:
<div class="title">
<div class="paragraph">
<table...4 tr td>
<div class="paragraph">
<div class="paragraph">
<div class="paragraph">
<div class="paragraph">
However, in Danish, Hungarian and Dutch (nl) the format is the following:

<div class="title">
<div class="paragraph">
<div class="paragraph">
<div class="paragraph">
<div class="paragraph">
<div class="paragraph">
<div class="paragraph">
<div class="paragraph">
<div class="paragraph">
<div class="paragraph">

that is, the table is not used, but instead the four items are paragraphs instead of table cells.

http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/nl/1_ne/contents

In English, there is the following:
<div class="subtitle">
CHAPTERS
</div>
though this does not exist (Chapters or the subtitle class) in any other language.

This is the same throughout the Contents pages with the following exceptions:
Enos, Jarom, Omni, WoM, 3 Nephi: Spanish, Italian have the code

http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/en/1_ne/2

In English, the following code is present, though it is not in every other language:
<div class="note"><span class='small'>
* VERSE 4 (600 <span class='smallcaps'>B.C.</span>).</span>
</div>

http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/en/1_ne/3

In all languages except Hungarian the following code is standard:
<div class="subtitle">
CHAPTER 3
</div>
<div class="summary">
Lehi’s sons return to Jerusalem ... Between 600 and 592 <span class='small'>B.C.</span>
</div>
However, in Hungarian, it is the following:
<div class="subtitle">
3. FEJEZET
</div>
<div class="intro">
Lehi fiai visszatérnek Jeruzsálembe....
</div>
<div class="summary">
Mintegy Kr.e. 600–592.
</div>

http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/en/1_ne/17

Only English has the following content:
<div class="note"><span class='small'>
* VERSE 4 (592 <span class='smallcaps'>B.C.</span>).</span>
</div>

http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/en/1_ne/18

Only English has the following content:

<div class="note"><span class='small'>
* VERSE 23 (PROBABLY ABOUT 589 <span class='smallcaps'>B.C.</span>).</span>
</div>

http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/en/2_ne/5

Only English contains the following content:
<div class="note"><span class='smallcaps'>
* verse 28 (569 <span class='small'>B.C.</span>); Verse 34 (559 <span class='small'>B.C.</span>).</span>
</div>


online scriptures, Book of Mormon, 2 Nephi 5, inconsistent content

http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/fr/2_ne/17

In French, verse 14, the hyperlink is on the "d" of d'Emmanuel instead of across the entire name as it is in all other languages.

http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/en/jacob/1

Only English has the following content:

<div class="note"><span class='small'>
* VERSE 1 (544 <span class='smallcaps'>B.C.</span>).</span>
</div>

http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/en/enos/1

Only English has the following content:
<div class="subtitle">
CHAPTER 1
</div>

as well as

<div class="note"><span class='small'>
* VERSE 25 (420 <span class='smallcaps'>B.C.</span>).</span>
</div>

http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/en/jarom/1

Only English has the following content:
<div class="subtitle">
CHAPTER 1
</div>as well as
<div class="note"><span class='smallcaps'>
* verse 5 (399 <span class='small'>B.C.</span>); Verse 13 (361 <span class='small'>B.C.</span>).</span>
</div>

http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/en/omni/1

Only English has th following content:
<div class="subtitle">
CHAPTER 1
</div>

as well as
<div class="note"><span class='smallcaps'>
* verse 3 (323 <span class='small'>B.C.</span>, 317 <span class='small'>B.C.</span>); Verse 5 (279 <span class='small'>B.C.</span>).</span>
</div>


online scriptures, Book of Mormon, Omni, inconsistent content

http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/en/w_of_m/1

Only English has the following content:
<div class="subtitle">
CHAPTER 1
</div>

as well as
<div class="note"><span class='smallcaps'>
* verse 2 (about <span class='small'>A.D.</span> 385); Verse 9 (About <span class='small'>A.D.</span> 385).</span>
</div>

http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/en/mosiah/1

Only English has the following content:
<div class="note"><span class='small'>
* VERSE 10 (ABOUT 124 <span class='smallcaps'>B.C.</span>).</span>
</div>

http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/en/mosiah/6

Only English has the following content:
<div class="note"><span class='smallcaps'>
* verse 4 (about 124 <span class='small'>B.C.</span>); Verse 5 (About 121 <span class='small'>B.C.</span>).</span>
</div>

http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/en/mosiah/7

Only English has the following content:

<div class="note"><span class='small'>
* VERSE 2 (ABOUT 121 <span class='smallcaps'>B.C.</span>).</span>
</div>

http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/en/mosiah/9

In English the content is as follows:
<div class="preface">
<span class='smallcaps'>The Record of Zeniff</span>—An account of his people, from the time they left the land of Zarahemla until the time that they were delivered out of the hands of the Lamanites. Comprising chapters 9 to 22 inclusive.
</div>
<div class="subtitle">
CHAPTER 9
</div>

however, in all other languages it is as follows:

<div class="preface">
<span class='smallcaps'>Zeniffs optegnelse</span> – En beretning om hans folk fra det tidspunkt, de forlod Zarahemlas land, indtil det tidspunkt, da de blev udfriet af lamanitternes hænder.
</div>
<div class="comprising">
Omfatter kapitlerne 9 til og med 22.
</div>
<div class="subtitle">
KAPITEL 9
</div>

Also, only English has the following content:
<div class="note"><span class='smallcaps'>
* verse 1 (about 200 <span class='small'>B.C.</span>); Verse 11 (About 188 <span class='small'>B.C.</span>); Verse 14 (About 187 <span class='small'>B.C.</span>).</span>
</div>

http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/en/mosiah/10

Only English has the following content:

<div class="note"><span class='smallcaps'>
* verse 3 (about 178 <span class='small'>B.C.</span>); Verse 22 (Probably about 160 <span class='small'>B.C.</span>).</span>
</div>

http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/en/mosiah/11

Only English has the following content:
<div class="note"><span class='small'>
* VERSE 20 (ABOUT 150 <span class='smallcaps'>B.C.</span>).</span>
</div>

I would prefer NOT to open new threads for each bug but rather keep them in one thread. It makes it tougher to discuss other items with so many "1 post" threads. So I would ask that you do one of two things:

1. Either post all to one thread.
2. Or even better, batch your posts so that one post has multiple problems in it. If you want to put them in a spreadsheet or document and post that, that is great.

Thanks for your help.

Tom

tomw wrote:I would prefer NOT to open new threads for each bug but rather keep them in one thread. It makes it tougher to discuss other items with so many "1 post" threads. So I would ask that you do one of two things:

1. Either post all to one thread.
2. Or even better, batch your posts so that one post has multiple problems in it. If you want to put them in a spreadsheet or document and post that, that is great.

Thanks for your help.

Tom

cemcelwee,

I merged all of the threads into this one thread. I also edited the title to 'BoM Testing', instead of the specific chapter title that was there.

Let me know if you want anything changed.

The Earl

cemcelwee wrote:http://beta.scriptures.lds.org/en/1_ne/2

In English, the following code is present, though it is not in every other language:
<div class="note"><span class='small'>
* VERSE 4 (600 <span class='smallcaps'>B.C.</span>).</span>
</div>

I can't speak to the other languages, but I know that in the printed version of the German Book of Mormon, there are no footnotes for the specific dates, as is done in English. So although it is indeed an inconsistency between languages, I think the online scriptures have to match the printed versions for the respective languages, so I wouldn't think that this is a problem that needs to be corrected in the online scriptures.

The Earl wrote:cemcelwee,

I merged all of the threads into this one thread. I also edited the title to 'BoM Testing', instead of the specific chapter title that was there.

Let me know if you want anything changed.

The Earl

Thanks MUCH!

Tom

Alan_Brown wrote:I can't speak to the other languages, but I know that in the printed version of the German Book of Mormon, there are no footnotes for the specific dates, as is done in English. So although it is indeed an inconsistency between languages, I think the online scriptures have to match the printed versions for the respective languages, so I wouldn't think that this is a problem that needs to be corrected in the online scriptures.

You are correct. I actually sat down with the developer and the translation department yesterday and show them a bunch of these issues and indeed they are not problems. The scriptures are constantly being revised over time. Let no one assume that the content is changing but footnotes, cross referencing, etc. are...especially for other languages. So, as an example, in the English version that we have online we show asterisks in the text with a footnote below detailing out the specific dates whereas other version in other languages we do not have the same footnote method. So it would appear that the text is out of sync. Just the footnotes are. However the combined text (footnotes, scriptures, index, etc). should be in sync with the latest version of the specific language. Grab any latest copy of the Spanish BOM, for example, and it should be the same as what is online.

Hope that this helps.

Tom

I believe one trend coming out of these posts is that for users who wish to parse or utilize the structure of the coded scriptures for developing other applications and tools (potentially for the Church) around the scriptures, there are inconsistencies in the structure that make it difficult to compare across languages. Keeping a consistent structure would open up for easier portability to other potential applications. Even empty tags for unused or unavailable content in some languages would add to the consistency to adequately compare and "read" this coded text.