18 yr old YW not showing up in action and interview list

Hi,

I'm the ward executive secretary and make heavy use of the action and interview list. Normally all the young women, young men, and young single adults show up for annual interviews around their birthdays, but recently I noticed a bug, where the transition between YW/YM and YSA isn't being handled correctly. We have a couple of young women that are turning 18 in the next couple of months. They don't show up under the youth, the young single adults, or anywhere else on the action and interview list. I know that there's an interview that normally shows up for Seminary graduation, but that's still 5 months in the future, and doesn't really cover the 18 year old annual interview.

Thanks,

Jared

Welcome to the forum! While many of us here are just community members like yourself, some developers do look here. I can think of a few things to look at.
You say they don't show on the YW class lists and they are 17 years old?
1. You do have an actual record for them, and not a temporary or non-member record, or a record without a confirmation date (member-of-record)?
2. When you examine their individual record in MLS, (NOT LDS.org,) what organization(s) is listed for them as being a member of?

Welcome to the forum! While many of us here are just community members like yourself, some developers do look here.

Thanks for the welcome! I'm actually looking for someway to submit a bug report to the lds.org developers, which may or may not be possible, I suppose.

You say they don't show on the YW class lists and they are 17 years old?

Actually, no. I have a couple of YW in the ward who are turning 18, one this month and one next month. The class lists are fine, it's the "Action and Interview list" that they don't show up on. They don't move from YWs until they graduate high school in the spring and I would expect them to get annual interviews in the month of their birthday like all the rest of the YW, but they're not there.

It looks like a bug to me, where somebody used a "less than 18 years old" instead of a "less than or equal to 18 years old" in fetching the youth who need interviews.

Thanks,

Jared

Actually, after they turn 18 they don't show up on the YW rolls for the next quarter, and I think this is probably on purpose, as school graduation dates are extremely variable and would be best left to the ward to determine locally.

But even if they are now classified as Young Single Adults they should still get an annual interview around their 18th birthday, and they don't show up on that sublist in the action and interview list either.

Thanks,

Jared

So it looks like a lot of people are looking at this, can anybody confirm that they see this bug as well?

Thanks,

Jared

jared.clements wrote:So it looks like a lot of people are looking at this

I wouldn't read too much into the number of views. Lots of people look at most or all of the posts, and every new post triggers a view for those people. But they might be financial clerks, or have stake callings, or for many other reasons not be able to even see the Action and Interview List.

We have this issue too and it triggers problems with class rolls as well. Just this week we were going back into MLS and adding the 18 year old high school seniors back into their Course 17 class (I think that is the class). MLS automatically boots them to relief society prematurely.

On your action and interview list, they still should show up but they will be in the YSA section. I tend to overlook it too. (I'm an exec sec)

jared.clements wrote:We have a couple of young women that are turning 18 in the next couple of months. They don't show up under the youth, the young single adults, or anywhere else on the action and interview list.

I see the same problem (at least on the Leader Portal - I have not checked MLS at the church). Good catch. I suggest sending in feedback via the "help" link describing the problem and pointing to this link. I am doing the same.

When a young woman turns 18, she joins the Relief Society. She would not have a youth interview at her 18th birthday. This is the general rule, but other factors can play a role as to if a young woman should join the relief society earlier than her 18th birthday.

If she is not married, she should have a YSA interview at her 18th birthday. If the Action and Interview List doesn't show her as needing an interview in the YSA section, then there is probably a bug, which I can fix for our next release.

jkitterman wrote:If she is not married, she should have a YSA interview at her 18th birthday. If the Action and Interview List doesn't show her as needing an interview in the YSA section, then there is probably a bug, which I can fix for our next release.

I can confirm that this indeed is the case: our turning-18 young-women-becoming-young-single-adults do not show up in the YSA interview list.

jkitterman wrote:When a young woman turns 18, she joins the Relief Society. She would not have a youth interview at her 18th birthday. This is the general rule, but other factors can play a role as to if a young woman should join the relief society earlier than her 18th birthday.

I believe most wards use High School graduation to mark the transition. So you'll have some 18yo in YW and some 17yo in YSA.

Handbook 2: 10.1.5 says "A young woman normally advances into Relief Society on her 18th birthday or in the coming year."

This becomes a problem for the Leadership portal, because it should follow MLS's grouping and not blindly go with the 18th birthday. Otherwise there will be a disconnect between MLS's reports and the Leadership portal.

russellhltn wrote: This becomes a problem for the Leadership portal, because it should follow MLS's grouping and not blindly go with the 18th birthday. Otherwise there will be a disconnect between MLS's reports and the Leadership portal.

Currently both MLS and CHQ will advance them automatically, then if the clerk moves them back in MLS that change will be sent to CHQ so that both should stay in sync.

How does the clerk move them back in MLS? I'm having a similar problem in that I cannot place an 18-year-old HS senior in the calling of Laurels President. What is the process I should follow in this case?

cheneyson4 wrote:How does the clerk move them back in MLS?

This thread is 4 years old. The idea is still the same, but the mechanics has changed. I don't think it can be done in MLS anymore. You'd have to use LCR to change the class assignments.

cheneyson4 wrote:What is the process I should follow in this case?

• Log on to LDS.org and select Leader and Clerk Resources from the My Account and Ward menu.
• Select the member from the Membership > Member List menu and then click the "View Member Profile" button.
• Select the "Callings/Classes" tab at the member's Member Information page.
• In the Class Assignments section click the "Edit" button to the right of the Relief Society organization.
• Select the Laurel class in the drop-down list-box in the "class" column.

Now you can select the Laurel class presidency calling in the Member Callings section of the Callings/Classes tab.