"All" Category

Why doesn't the "All" category work? Or is it supposed to? Or am I behind on the instructions as usual?

zaneclark wrote:Why doesn't the "All" category work? Or is it supposed to? Or am I behind on the instructions as usual?

It works fine for me. When I select the "All" category, I see all the articles in the Newsletter application, regardless of what category they are in. Of course there have to be some articles that have been created. What are you seeing?

All category is generic to most users and unclear to me who all is so I created category "Entire Ward" to display all articles.

dr_computer wrote:All category is generic to most users and unclear to me who all is so I created category "Entire Ward" to display all articles.

That's fine, but that requires you to remember to attach that category to all articles if you want it to work like "All". And to my hear, it has quite a different meaning:

• "Entire Ward" implies that every article that is in that category will apply to the entire ward (things like Sacrament Meeting, the ward Christmas party, etc.).
• "All" means that articles in all the categories are displayed. Some of those articles may apply only to the Primary; some may apply only to the Young Men; but all articles will be listed.

So I don't see how "Entire Ward" is a reasonable substitute for "All" (and you can't remove "All" from the list of categories anyway -- it is built in and always present).

The All category did and was deleted from my newsletter before I read responses to this thread. The comments made sense so I tried to put it back and when working with categories to arrange them, and determine if All actually was deleted, my complete page of articles disappeared and I had a get started screen. Now I'm not sure what I have for categories.

Losing an article could be a real problem sometime. Does anyone know if there is a "recycle bin feature" or someway to recover an inadvertent loss of an article?

dr_computer wrote:The All category did and was deleted from my newsletter before I read responses to this thread. The comments made sense so I tried to put it back and when working with categories to arrange them, and determine if All actually was deleted, my complete page of articles disappeared and I had a get started screen. Now I'm not sure what I have for categories.

Note that there are two lists of categories:

• The list that shows on the Admin screen is the entire list of all possible categories. This is the list you may choose from when creating a new article. The "All" category (which isn't really a category at all) makes no sense in this context, so it is not included.
• The list that shows on the main Newsletter view. This list will include only the "All" category and those categories that are actually used in current articles, so this list will often be much shorter than the Admin list.

I am not able to find all of the categories logged in as a member. Also how do you select a category for an article as administrator. I see only list manipulation. These may be simple question but in these posts are the "learning" gems.

When I log in, the newsletter comes up in the "All" category. That is the first view that I get--a list of all articles from all categories listed from the last one posted to the first. That seems like a confusing first view of the page. If I am an editor, I want to control what the user sees when he/she logs in. I would want the Bishopric Message or Stake Presidency Message to come up first. Then the user can chose categories to read articles from the other organizations. I don't see a use for an "All" category in a well-organized newsletter. Is there a way to control what category comes up when the user first logs in?

I can see how someone might want to have all entries listed in chronological order in a blog. However, this is a newsletter application. It seems that greater organization is required for a newsletter. Am I missing something?

dr_computer wrote:I am not able to find all of the categories logged in as a member.

Logged in as a member, you will see all the categories that are currently being used. There may be more categories that an administrator sees, but only because those categories have no articles within them. There's no good reason for a member to see categories that have no articles, so those unused categories are not shown.

dr_computer wrote:Also how do you select a category for an article as administrator. I see only list manipulation. These may be simple question but in these posts are the "learning" gems.

To select a category, you just start typing the category name when you are in the category box. Others have suggested that it would be helpful to have a list of categories to choose from (see the thread Adding a category to a post.).

In working with categories, on the listing I now have lost the all category and if I try to put it back I get a second"All". Anyone know how to put back the default "All"?

If the "All" category is missing then there is a bug. It should always be there. If you added an "All" category then you will have a category named "All" and the link, titled "All", that displays all articles in every category. If you only want to see the "All" categories link then delete the category named "All".

dr_computer wrote:In working with categories, on the listing I now have lost the all category and if I try to put it back I get a second"All". Anyone know how to put back the default "All"?

Can you please contact me directly - I'd like to look into this problem further. I'm unable to duplicate this.

Mindie

I have 2 All categories in the user selection list. Only one will appear in the admin list. Selecting the one that is at the top of the user list opens articles with no display of the ALL heading. Selecting the added All that is at the bottom of the list displays the articles with the ALL heading. Both Alls on the user list function OK but display different.

Is it possible to have a programmer assist me in the Newsletter categories to remove a second "all" category now in my category list?

dr_computer wrote:Is it possible to have a programmer assist me in the Newsletter categories to remove a second "all" category now in my category list?

I can't speak for the programmers; perhaps one will see this thread, perhaps not.

But it seems to me that if you have two "All" categories, then the most likely scenario is that one is the default "All" category, and the other is one that you manually added (as you have noted previously).

To delete the one you added manually:

1. Go to the admin section of the Newsletter (click the Admin link near the upper right corner).
2. In the Categories section, find the category with the name "All"
3. Click the X at the right edge of the row containing the "All" category
4. In the "Are you sure?" popup, decide if you want to reassign the articles currently using the All category to another category (I would think you would not want to do this, so don't select any of the radio buttons)
5. Click YES to confirm.

That should remove the extra "All" category that you added. If that doesn't work for you, please report back where in those steps it didn't work.

All category is still functioning as described above. When I remove added "All" there is not one listed on the drop down list of categories. I do not get a default "All" in the Admin list.

Mindy did you get my email re: this problem? <0x0iszer0@dahlsite.net>

dr_computer wrote:All category is still functioning as described above. When I remove added "All" there is not one listed on the drop down list of categories. I do not get a default "All" in the Admin list.

But that's exactly how it should be working. There is no "All" category for you to apply to an article, and that is why it doesn't appear in the drop down list of categories, nor does it appear in the Admin category list.

The "All" category appears only on the normal view of the Newsletter. It is a special view option (not really a category at all) that says that all articles in all categories should be displayed.

A category selection is required. What do I select if there is no "All" listed". I understand better howw it works with this explanation but I still have a problem handling "all" information articles.

dr_computer wrote:A category selection is required. What do I select if there is no "All" listed". I understand better howw it works with this explanation but I still have a problem handling "all" information articles.

You have to select one of the categories for an article. It doesn't really make sense to select "All" for an article, since "All" is simply a special viewing option that shows articles in all the categories (and thus it is not an option for a category to apply to an article). So as you're creating an article, select the existing category that matches best. Or if no category matches, create one (hopefully a category that can be used for other future articles as well) and then apply that new category to your article.

Perhaps what you are trying to do is classify your article as something that applies to all ward members? If that is the case then what you may consider doing is adding a "Ward" category. Then members viewing the Newsletter can select "Ward" to see those items that are intended for the entire ward, or "All" if they want to see all articles, even ones that are specific to only the Primary, or only Young Men, or only Relief Society.